Wednesday, June 03, 2009

Lambi Umariya! The Age of Bollywood Stars

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Because of the recent economic downturn, tech companies have been shuttering their windows faster than the new season of Dus Ka Dum seems to be heading for disaster. For a while the tech community was buzzing productively with all kinds of news.

Then the well dried up. Pretty soon all people could write about was Twitter and Facebook, an opportunity Ashton Kutcher maximized to play a silly and high profile stunt.

But soon enough the tech community ran out of things to say. Now what?

These days everyone wants to talk about the evolution of search. What's new in the world of search? Two things: Real time search, the type afforded by microblogging engines like Twitter. And Semantic Search, of which no clear leader seems to have emerged. Both areas are significant because they represent exploitable shortcomings in Google's technology today.

Say for example you want to search on that punk dude from American Idol. Google will give you tons of information. But let's say you are watching American Idol and just when someone was about to get eliminated, your TV went on the blink. You run to your computer and searched for the results. Chances are they won't be on Google. But you'll have a pretty good chance of finding it on Twitter (a pretty good Twitter search engine is Twazzup in case you'd like to try).

On to semantic search. The basic idea is this: instead of trying to figure out how good a site is simply by indexing its keywords, can a search engine create intelligent sets of data and relationships instead? This would lead to more intelligent searches. Say for example I type in "US GPD" in Google. Google will use some semantic digging to tell me it is 13.84 Trillion. But if I typed in a true blue semantic engine like the recently buzzed about WolframAlpha , things look a lot better.

How is this relevant to Bollywood? Well, let's take that age old debate for example - how old are our actors really? Using a semantic search engine, you can get the answer in one line by typing in '[star name] age'. Let's do this in WolframAlpha, shall we? Remember, because the engine is new and it takes time to index the Internet, you won't get information on every star. But you will on the popular ones.

Typing 'Akshay Kumar Age' in Wolfram will tell you his exact age (based on available online information of course). Type in 'Akshay Kumar' and you'll also learn that his real name is - bhais ki poonch! - Rajiv Hari-Om Bhatia.

Now all of this stuff is out on the Internet already. But like any good search engine, a semantic search engine will bring you what you need at your fingertips with spiffy guesswork.

Give a kid a BB gun and what happens? He sprays every wall in sight. Given this nutty controversy about "Bollywood Generations" that erupted recently at Cannes between Aishwarya and Sonam Kapoor, I thought it would be appropriate to compare everyone's ages. Yes, this is intrusive. But it's also interesting!

I restricted my list to famous actors in leading roles - I made an exception for my favorite Himesh Reshammiya and my favorite Star Kid lookalike Karishma Kapoor. I divided my lists by gender.

For kicks I calculated the average age for each gender list. The gap between leading men and women is about 8 years. It surprised me - I was expecting it to be much bigger!

But when you look closely you realize what's been happening. A few focussed actresses have been able to extend their career leases for a bit longer (Madhuri, Tabu, Aish, Kajol) raising the average age of women, while a number of younger actors have been breaking into the upper ranks of Bollywood - thanks to the highly upjau Star Kids system - bringing the average age of the male pool down.


The Men
Average Age: 38


Amitabh Bachchan
October 11, 1942
70
Govinda
December 21, 1958
54
Sanjay Dutt
July 2, 1959
53
Aamir Khan
March 14, 1965
47
Shahrukh Khan
November 2, 1965
47
Salman Khan
December 27, 1965
47
Ajay Devgun
April 2, 1967
46
Akshay Kumar
September 9, 1967
45
Bobby Deol
January 27, 1970
43
Saif Ali Khan
August 16, 1970
42
John Abraham
December 17, 1972
40
Arjun Rampal
November 26, 1972
40
Himesh Reshammiya
July 23, 1973
40
Hrithik Roshan
January 27, 1974
39
Farhan Akhtar
January 9, 1974
39
Fardeen Khan
March 8, 1974
39
Akshaye Khanna
March 28, 1975
39
Abhishek Bachchan
February 5, 1976
37
Vivek Oberoi
September 3, 1976
36
Emraan Hashmi
March 24, 1979
34
Shahid Kapoor
February 25, 1981
32
Neil Nitin Mukesh
January 15, 1982
31
Imraan Khan
January 13, 1983
30
Ranbir Kapoor
September 28, 1982
30


The Women
Average Age: 30


Madhuri Dixit
May 15, 1967
45
Tabu
November 4, 1970
42
Aishwarya Rai
November 1, 1973
39
Karishma Kapoor
June 25, 1974
38
Preity Zinta
January 31, 1975
37
Kajol
August 5, 1974
38
Shilpa Shetty
June 8, 1975
37
Kareena Kapoor
September 21, 1977
35
Rani Mukherjee
March 21, 1978
36
Vidya Balan
January 1, 1978
36
Lara Dutta
April 16, 1978
36
Bipasha Basu
January 7, 1979
33
Soha Ali Khan
October 4, 1978
32
Konkana Sen Sharma
December 3, 1979
33
Esha Deol
November 2, 1982
30
Mallika Sherwat
October 24, 1981
29
Amrita Rao
June 17, 1981
29
Priyanka Chopra
July 18, 1982
30
Katrina Kaif
July 16, 1984
28
Asin
October 26, 1985
27
Sonam Kapoor
June 9, 1985
27
Deepika Padukone
January 5, 1986
26
Kangana Ranaut
March 23, 1987
25
Genelia D'Souza
August 5, 1987
25


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38 comments:

Anonymous said...

Mallika Sherwat is NOT 27. She is 37 as has been confirmed by her ex-husband, family and former classmates. LOL

Anonymous said...

Kareena's got to be 27 or 28.

And Genelia has been working for 6 years.How come she's only 21.

Aspi said...

You know some of those ages made me go 'hmmm...' but be that as it may, all I have is internet data to go by. But I'll start compiling the rumored age of everyone on this post.

meena said...

kangana is only 22? doesnt seem right.

Magdalena said...

About Hrithik - I believe it should be 1974, not 1964.

Thanks for a great blog!

Kokonad said...

Hey Aspi! It's funny how Aamir Khan, Shah Rukh Khan and Salman Khan are of the same age... I literally lived my childhood years seeing them mature as actors - in their ups and downs etc.

Nice post, keep writing!

Aspi said...

Magdalena, thanks for the correction.

This post drove me crazy to format - and it doesn't look that great either. Need to figure out how to do tables without mucking around with reams of html :)

Kokanad, yes its funny how the big 3 are the same age. You'd think they'd get along :)

Anonymous said...

Nice post!! Now what should we do with all this info, any suggestions??

Aspi said...

I use information for entertainment.

Your mileage may wary - but depending on the company you keep you could use it to

(a) teach your kids about math
(b) start a discussion on gender inequality
(c) start an office pool on which actor is getting mothballed first

Deepa said...

I agree with Anonymous and Meena.. Kareena Kapoor, according to wikipedia, was born on the 21st of September 1980 not 1977 which would make her nearly 10 years younger than her current beau.. :-O While I am all in favour of 'age no bar in love', it still seems like cradle snatching..

And Kangana and Genelia sooo do not look like 21 or 22... Or does Bollywood add years to women's actual ages????

The divine Madhuri does not look 42 so kaput goes my theory...

But wonderful analysis as always Aspi..

Aspi said...

Well you get the feeling they are all much older and then you listen to them in an interview and you realize - maybe not.

I heard Saif-Kareena once talk about how Kareena used to ogle at Saif when she was a little kid. So that 10 year gap might well be real.

Genelia's filmography goes back to 2003. That's 6 years. So she was 15 in her debut film Satyam and 16 in Masti. I haven't heard her in an interview yet, but I'll wait before deciding for myself :)

Mind Rush said...

SOme of these younger women seem so well put together and confident for a youngster that they are.

Any speculations as to why men enter films so much later than women on average? I can see a 2 year gap to mature but this is toooo much.

Anonymous said...

I am trying to keep up with the math here, so please stick to the facts...you see humara math kamzor hai!!

Lin said...

Kareena is 28, soon to be turning 29. The best proof is her first appearance on Kwk in 2004, where she says, I'm "I'm only 23" when the topic of marriage came up. And I think Karan also said something about her age somewhere in one of the two appearances.

Her debut in Refugee (2000), she was touted as 19/20.

Amrita said...

Man, if Kareena and Rani are the same age then Rani must be on crystal meth.

This was a great idea for a post Aspi! I can only imagine the aggravation.

Hridya said...

Should Govinda really be on this list? Also, Mallika pretending to be in her 20's was just something she did at the beginning. Even she's given up on that now.

Anonymous said...

Most of these actresses are probably very young,but they've been around for so long it's difficult to believe their age.All that make-up and stress can take it's toll.

May be Divya Bharati's life is a good example of having-seen/done everything before the age of 19.What a tragedy!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divya_Bharti

kat said...

Priyanka looks way old for her age!! Oh dear, no wonder she's (accoridng to all the rumours) constantly getting 'work' done. I don't have a problem with believing Kareena and Rani are the same age, though - Rani just has a 'mature' kind of face (and has been around for longer).

Priya said...

i think what's important to note is that the guys on the upper end of the age bracket (late 30s to mid 40s) are at the top of their game. The same could be argued of the women in their early to mid 20s. Thus, the actual "weighted" (by star power/visibility/press coverage) age difference between male and female starts is quite substantial - around 10-15 years. the only real exception seems to be aishwarya rai. preity, rani, and kajol are more part time players than the rest.

i remember that some 16 year old girl was opposite govinda. she was one of the kids with hrithik in koi mil gaya. 'nuff said.

Aspi said...

Priya, good point! I wonder if I can do one with Hollywood. The data would be more accurate for sure :)

Pitu said...

Dude! Mallika is way way older! There is no way she is so young! And also, I am pretty sure Kareena's younger than me, which shd make her 27 I think.

Pitu said...

Priya: you mean Miss Steroids Hansika Motwani?

prerana said...

All actresses are much older then the age of they pretend to be,actresses just lie about their age accepting star kids and miss worlds.when normal parents give wrong age for their kid for school admission.then how can you believe actresses don't hide their age?actresses generally looks much older than any other college going girl of same age and they start looking older soon
bcoz they hide their age upto 6-7 yrs.
kangana is not less then 28,genelia not less than 27,vidya 38,asin 27,what to say about malika?katrina cannot be 24 at all.can't guess her age cuz she is very beautiful.Can trust only ages of popular star kids.even they give their school b'day which generally remains 1-2 yrs less.

Anonymous said...

I think Genelia & Asin should stop playing with there age, last time i got a cosmopolitan magazine where it indicate she is 82 born and not 87. Asin cant be 85 born at all i mean look when she debuted? She must have been 23 that time. This actress have some guts to rub there real age.

Anonymous said...

I want to laugh off so badly the min i saw genelia & asin lying about there age, i mean c'mon at least be reasonable,genelia was 21 when she debuted...& now is 2010 hw come she is stil 21 or 22. Asin, what can i say? all i say start accepting your real age with gracefully! Plus in internet type there names & the result is chaotic, genelia is sometime 82 born smoetime 83 n last time it was 87...Asin is 80 born not 85.

Anonymous said...

In 1971, Kal Aaj our Kal, with three generations of Kapoors (Prithvi, Raj, Randhir) was released. My mother informed me after reading one of the movie magazines at that time and which had published the news, that Karishma was born around the time the movie was released. Which means, the year of her birth is 1971. Kareena is 3-4 years younger than Karishma; which makes her year of birth 1975. She looked quite old in her first movie Refugee, released in 2000. All Bollywood female stars reduce their ages by 2-10 years.

Anonymous said...

The worst offender in "age declaration" is Sharmila Tagore. Her actual DOB is October 1939. She says she is 1946. Check out her Bengali movies from 1959-60. No way she is 13 in those movies! Her son Saif and daugher Soha on the other hand, have revealed their true ages. The children of all the famous stars from yester-years have no option but to reveal their actual ages since there was so much publicity surrounding their birth in the 1970 and 1980s. On the other hand, for first-generation movie stars such as Juhi Chawla (actual- 1963 born), Madhuri Dixit (actual -1961 born), there are no records. Information can be obtained only from their school classmates who in turn are friends of ordinary folks such as you and me. The Bachhan family is the most truthful in this entire category.

Anonymous said...

Hema Malini's school classmate from DTEA Mandir Marg, New Delhi, was our family friend. He is 1946 born (finished high school at age 15). Hema Malini has to be 1946 October and not 1948 October. Still, 2 years reduction in age is not bad especially since she has also retained her fantastic looks well into her 60s.

Hema

Aspi said...

Hema, that is a great point about getting info from classmates. And thanks for leaving those dates for us!

Anonymous said...

Hi All,
Let's face it..all bollywood
actresses fake their age..the equation is simple = Thier Current Age + 7 years.

All the inconsistent birthdates on the internet prove the above equation valid.

shaildeep1 said...

Genelia claims to be 16 when she first appeared in an ad with Amitabh Bachchan in 2001. That makes her probably '86 born.

Anonymous said...

Kat is nothing less than 33... I read in a mag as well as on the net... Boom was released in 2003, 7 yrs ago.. Dat time she was 25...!!! Not sure, jus speculating though!!!

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shalu said...

most of them are wrong age mentioned, like vidya balan, I'am 32 yrs old n when I was in calss 7th or 8th when I saw her surf add on TV n it that she was looking like 24 or 25. so according to that she must be near to 40.

sridhar said...

kareena is only 32.. nt 35

Aspi said...

Kareena's age has changed "officially" a few times my friend. It was 1977 not so long ago. Its now 1980.

Anonymous said...

Yes a lot of liars here. The truth is all of the celebs lie even star kids because who is really going to remember if they were born in 1968 or 1970 forty something years ago. This is the case of Saif Ali Khan-he is really born in 1968 not 1970 and Kareena is really born in 1975. They are only 7 years apart not 10.For many years Kareena claimed to be born in 1977 and now she is claiming 1980.I am sure if she wasn't a star kid she would have taken ten years off by now.
Katrina Kaif may look 29 now but she is really 35.

The worst offenders are Mallika Sherawat, she is like 42 by now and Vidya Balan. Vidya was in the TV serial Hum Paanch in 1995 and she looked like 24/25/26 then. She is at least 42 by now.

Rashmi Kishore said...

Kareena is 6 years younger than Karisma...when Karisma debuted in PremQuaidi Kareena was just10 year old.
Kareena debuted in Refugee at the age of 20 years